Wind and thermalsDale vs. Ol' Notch, Thermals Part 2 (special)

Why Does the Wind Go Dead at Dusk?

A dead calm at dusk is usually the air turning around, not a safe wind. Fire weather guides describe the evening switch in three steps: the uphill breeze dies, there's a calm, then cool air slides downhill.

Aired Nov 2, 20261 research card, each with its limits 2 min read
Still from Dale vs. Ol' Notch, Thermals Part 2 (special)
3 steps
Uphill breeze dies, calm, then cool air slides downhill
NWCG PMS 437
1-3 hrs
How far valley winds generally lag slope winds
NWCG PMS 437
2-5 mph
Typical downhill wind, slower than 3-8 mph uphill
NWCG PMS 437

01What the research found

RECEIPT
The study

How slope winds switch in the evening

WhereMountain and hill terrain (fire weather guidance)SampleNot a study. A national fire weather field guide.WhenCurrent edition, opened November 2026
What they did

Fire weather forecasters describe how slope and valley winds change through the day.

What they found
  • On slopes going into shadow, the switch has three steps: the upslope wind dies, there's a period of relative calm, then gentle flow downslope.
  • The cooled, denser air is stable, so the downhill flow tends to be smooth and layered.
  • Upslope winds generally run 3 to 8 mph. Downslope winds are very shallow and slower, generally 2 to 5 mph.
  • Valley winds generally lag 1 to 3 hours behind slope winds, so a creek bottom can still blow the old way after the slope has turned.
Limits
  • Fire weather guidance, not a deer study.
  • "Generally" ranges. Your terrain, cloud cover and weather systems change the timing.
Source. National Wildfire Coordinating Group. PMS 437 Fire Behavior Field Reference Guide, "Weather: Estimating Winds for Fire Behavior." www-nwcg.fs2c.usda.gov →

02My read

MY READMy tactic, not a study result

No deer study I found tested how deer use thermals. That calm is the air turning around, not a free pass. Sit the stand that still works once the air is sliding downhill.

03Field notes

  1. Treat a dead calm at dusk as the switch starting, not as a safe wind.
  2. Before the sit, picture where your scent goes once the air slides downhill, and pick the stand that still works then.
  3. Watch the creek bottom. It can keep blowing the old way for a while after the slope turns.
  4. For the basics of which way the air moves and when, see Episode 8, How Do Thermals Work?
  5. Check your own state's season dates and legal hours with your state wildlife agency.

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